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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:36:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: jyotiseth9@yahoo.co.in
To: harry.arora@enron.com
Subject: thanks
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 Thanks  a lot Harry - Harpreet - I do appreciate the
time you have spent on sending me your answers.I can
understand your making the choices you made and they
were consciuos ones too. I can understand too coz i am
a punjabi too bu t not a sikh bu tI have a lot of sikh
friends and we talk of these things often - honestly!
You have been a great help
thanks again
All the best in whatever you pursue - i have made a
not and wil send you the results but it will probably
take a year of so to comlete this work - i intend to
write a book or a series of articles.
thanks
jytoi 
 --- "Arora, Harry" <Harry.Arora@ENRON.com> wrote: >
It is a short form of my real name Harpreet. My
> colleagues at work in
> India use to call me Harry. I came to US to do my
> MBA and it started
> with this week long orientation. I went through
> introducing myself about
> 200 times in those 10 days and I realized into the
> second day how easy
> it would be to work with Harry than with Harpreet. I
> still go by
> Harrpeet on all records and feel that this works
> pretty good.
> 
> I am a Sikh and when I came to US I used to wear a
> turban.  I vividly
> remember interviewing with a turban for numerous
> finance jobs and doing
> very well but not getting any of those jobs. It was
> clear to me that
> wearing a turban and looking different would not be
> a kind of diversity
> this society could take. I saw it as discrimination
> and had no reason to
> put up with it.  Also, I was personally asking a lot
> of bold questions
> of religion and belief and those converged well in
> me cutting my hair
> and not wearing a turban in my second year at
> school. 
> 
> Other than that, every now and then, you do come
> across people who you
> think have a bias. Its hard to find out whether the
> bias is you being an
> Indian or because they may not like you as a person.
> More often than not
> I do think people stereotype me so its harder to get
> good interactions
> in larger gatherings but once you know people better
> everything seems
> very normal.
> I also think I have been fortunate in working with
> people who are fair
> but do believe that there are lot of people out
> there who may not be so
> reasonable.  
> 
> On a separate note, I would like to have a look at
> the results of the
> study you are doing.  So if you can send me a copy
> I'd appreciate it.
> 
> 
> Harry
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jyoti seth [mailto:jyotiseth9@yahoo.co.in]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 5:24 PM
> To: Arora, Harry
> Subject: one mor e thing
> 
> 
> one more thing - Is Harry a short form of your
> original Indian name . ANy reason to do this.
> Also- have you felt any discrimination at work or
> socilly - subtle or overt! Anything that you
> remember-
> I s this discrimination real or percieved!
> 
> I have taken the liberty of asking you more
> questions
> sinc e you seem to be someone who has thought about
> issues which encompas life here.
> thanks
> jyoti seth
> 
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>  --- "Arora, Harry" <Harry.Arora@ENRON.com> wrote: >
> Answers to your questions
> > A. Faster pace, more professional and stimulating.
> > Less autocratic style
> > compared to India. Business gets done and then you
> > move on.
> > B. Not really, more convenience is available in
> > terms of healthier food
> > outside, more facilities and  possibilities in
> > sports and working out,
> > and more accessibility to art and leisure
> > activities. Far more
> > comfortable life for working family. ( Comments
> dont
> > apply to when you
> > have kids, have no experience, and hear that it is
> > harder)
> > C. Not really, contact and interaction is more on
> > your initiative than
> > forced.  Nobody stops by, you have to meet up and
> > call and plan in
> > advance, which is quite different from India.
> > Availability of bars, pubs
> > and outdoor activities is far higher in this
> country
> > than back home
> > hence the possibilities for a person who takes
> > initiative to make
> > friends and ingratiate him/herself are huge.
> > 
> > Comments : I have been here eight years and there
> > are three things I can
> > say with conviction.
> > 
> > 1. Institutions - private and govt, are organized
> > with a clear sense of
> > purpose and make decisions and progress.  Within
> the
> > debate and
> > differences, things move, changes are made and
> > action taken. On the
> > contrary in India, there is a lack of liquidity
> and
> > resources and
> > decisions never get made. 
> > 
> > 2. Honesty & truth in personal life is much
> higher.
> > There is
> > accompanying freedom.  You do what you want to and
> > what is right for
> > you, and not what tradition or society tells you
> to
> > do. The result is a
> > variety of different vocations and things done and
> a
> > vibrant society. In
> > India, that is harder and unusual. There is little
> > faith beyond the
> > normal and initiative is killed too soon in life.
> > Cynicism rules and
> > corruption in personal and public life is abound.
> > 
> > 3. The desire and means to fulfill life beyond
> > survival exists. It also
> > leads to a loss of purpose and hence many more
> > pyschological problems.
> > Many people feel no pleasure in the simple joys of
> > life because they are
> > too easy to come by.  Equality in normal life is
> > huge (standard of
> > living is high for most people and moves up hardly
> > any as you become
> > more successful) and that leads to a feeling of
> > blah. That is what I
> > think is prosperity.
> > 
> > 
> > Hope that helps. If you can forward the original
> > questionnaire (I
> > already deleted mine) I will forward it to a
> couple
> > of my Indian
> > friends.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Harry
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jyoti seth [mailto:jyotiseth9@yahoo.co.in]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:27 PM
> > To: Arora, Harry
> > Subject: RE: thanks
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you very much for taking out time to fill in
> > this questionnaire.
> > A few more questions:
> > A) How do you compare the work enviorment in the
> US
> > with INdia
> > B) Do you tink that in some ways one has to work
> > more
> > at home too in hte US
> 
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